Blackhawks take step back and an interview with Brandon Hagel

On the latest Blackhawks Talk Podcast, Pat Boyle and Charlie Roumeliotis break down the losses to Carolina and Winnipeg. Why are the Blackhawks having such a difficult time scoring at 5-on-5? And could we see a lineup shake-up? Plus, Pat goes 1-on-1 with forward Brandon Hagel.

1:15 - Breaking down losses to Carolina, Winnipeg

5:10 - What to make of the quick strikes against early in periods

9:35 - Injury updates on Caleb Jones and Wyatt Kalynuk

11:20 - Should the Blackhawks load up the first line with Alex DeBrincat, Patrick Kane and Jonathan Toews?

16:10 - Interview with Brandon Hagel